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Re: the Maligned Art

From:David G. Durand <dgd@...>
Date:Monday, November 9, 1998, 16:07
At 10:45 AM -0400 11/8/98, Logical Language Group wrote:
>>David wrote concerning the "social activity" of a language as being >>neces>>In other words, are our hardware stores populated by >>"hammer-looking" objects >>that have yet to "earn" their "hammerhood" by being bought and used? > >This is indeed a philosophicval point. > >The counterargument is simople in this case. We don't know all the properties >of "real languages", and hence cannot be sure something is a "real language" >until it is used successfully in all the ways that "real languages" are. >This is especially hard when people don't even agree as to what the >properties of "real languages" are, even among what is actually known >about them (i.e. which properties are 'necessary' for languagehood as opposed >to things that we have observed in a few or many languages).
The question is whether languages are like hammers. Since they are abstract objects (i.e. if they're "objects" at all they're not made of matter), they differ in a key way. On the other hand, they do both have a _function_ designed in the case of hammers, designed or evolved in the case of languages. The term language is not a pre-existing fact whose "correct" meaning we need to discover. The term "real" language begs the question, by assuming that there's a precise definition that _isn't_ satisfied by some things that are "language-like" enough to be called languages, but that actually aren't. If you don't accept that premise, the counterargument isn't even an argument. -- David _________________________________________ David Durand dgd@cs.bu.edu \ david@dynamicDiagrams.com Boston University Computer Science \ Sr. Analyst http://www.cs.bu.edu/students/grads/dgd/ \ Dynamic Diagrams --------------------------------------------\ http://www.dynamicDiagrams.com/ MAPA: mapping for the WWW \__________________________