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Re: The rest of my post. (Nadsat 2000)

From:John Cowan <cowan@...>
Date:Monday, July 17, 2000, 2:55
Danny asked me to forward this.

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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 19:05:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Danny Wier <dawier@...>
To: John Cowan <cowan@...>
Subject: Re: The rest of my post.  (Nadsat 2000)

> > (ruled by a pseudo-theocratic dictatorship modeled after Calvin's > > Geneva, Cromwell's Britain or Salem, Massachusetts), > > Cromwell's Britain doesn't belong on this list: although definitely > intolerant of Catholics (like all other British regimes from Henry > VIII > until modern times), it was no theocratic dictatorship. It was > extremely > tolerant of freethinking (called Independency in those days): Quakers > and > Jews, among others, were for the first time free of persecution. > Cromwell, indeed, was famous for his reply to a bunch of would-be > theocrats: "Bethink ye, bethink ye, in the bowels of Christ > [i.e. in compassion, the bowels being the seat of compassion], > that ye *might* be mistaken!"
You're so right; I researched the Puritan Commonwealth right after I posted that. Anyway, the thing is... the religion which rose to prominence in mid 21st century America isn't so much a religion as it is a theological concept gone way wrong. Though Christians of all denominations, even Catholics and Orthodox, participate in government, the culture and worldview of the state is very markedly Calvinist. However, the secret religion of the state isn't traditional, evangelical Christianity. It only has the veneer of such. In fact, it's a religious cult based a lot on Gnosticism and the Illuminati. (Which is surprising considering Freemansonry was outlawed in all states, as is the Church of Latter-Day Saints.) The theology of this cult is based on absolute predestination presented in a way that would make Luther and Calvin cringe, combined with the highly racist "Christian Identity" and Anglo-Israelist nationalism. America is the Kingdom of God and Christ and they are one and the same. Basically, as far as the people are concerned, they think they serve a nation based on Reformation principles especially codified in the beliefs of the Puritans and a revival of the same in the Reconstructionist movement. But instead of being a small but influential element of conservative Presbyterianism, it became ecumenical. Catholics and Jews are tolerated insofar as they honor America. Which often demands that Catholics defy the Pope's leadership (in fact, an American antipope begins to rise in Baltimore which in effect becomes the "American Rome"), and Jews ignore their brethren in Russia, Israel and elsewhere. Actually, the tyrannical regime that would take hold is a sinister mix of both leftist and rightist principles. The actual practices, which includes Nazi-style programs of eugenics, racial separation and a desire to establish a millennial New World Order, often are missed by the general public, which has been deceived to think that it's all democracy, and all God's will. But thanks for clearing me up on this matter. (Maybe it was the Irish in me that wanted to bash Cromwell...) DaW. -- John Cowan C'est la` pourtant que se livre le sens du dire, de ce que, s'y conjuguant le nyania qui bruit des sexes en compagnie, il supplee a ce qu'entre eux, de rapport nyait pas. -- Jacques Lacan, "L'Etourdit"