Re: a new project of conlang
From: | Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...> |
Date: | Monday, November 16, 1998, 9:58 |
At 18:12 15/11/98 +0000, you wrote:
>Christophe Grandsire wrote:
>
>> GENITIVES, ATTRIBUTIVES and ADJECTIVES:
>>
>> These are three different constructions whose purpose is to
>> determine a noun with another noun, or the meaning of a root.
>
>I am currently trying to disentangle adjectives from stative verbs,
>without much success. As for genitives, I just run them together
>as normal nouns "John horse shoe nail" like a Germanic compound
>but with spaces to breate.
>
>> GENDER:
>>
>> Gender is neither the unproductive system that we find in French,
>> nor the classes system of Swahili. It's rather a productive system of
>> derivations (roots have no gender in themselves, roj meaning for example
>> 'human' in a very broad sense) that can seem a little like Esperanto, but
>> with a "gender-like" flavour. As gender is used for agreement between=
nouns
>> and their determinants (pronominal complexes with antecedents, genitives,
>> attributives and adjectives), I kept the name 'gender' to describe that
>> system. A gender can have subgenders, and subgenders can have=
subsubgenders.
>> The tree of this system is:
>>
>> - animated: letter k. - human: k'a. (- masculine: k'a-n.)
>> (- feminine: k'a-ti.)
>> (- group: k'a-se.)
>> - animal: ki. (- masculine: ki-n.)
>> (- feminine: ki-ti.)
>> (- group: ki-se.)
>> - other (gods, extraterrestrials...): k.
>> - inanimated: letter m. - plants: me.
>> - part of animated: mi-k.
>> - object: m'aj.
>> - 'material' (used with ingredients in cooking):=
m.
>> - pseudo-animated (fire, planets, earthquakes):
m'a-k.
>> - conceptual: letter j. - idea, art, doctrine (everything in -ism): jer.
>> - abstraction (of something concrete): j'a.
>> - quality (in a broad sense): j.
>>
>> I borrowed this idea from Carlos Thompson and adapted it in my=
way.
>> He picked my curiosity with his idea of subgenders.
>
>Using genders that way is cool. What do you do to distinguish
>a habitual (not cases) "employ-er" from an "employ-ee" etc.?
>I might use noun classes (genders) for that sort of thing.
>
>
I didn't think of that. I think it's because the French equivalents
'employeur' and 'employ=E9' are not that used (we use 'employ=E9', but=
almost
never 'employeur'. We generally use the word 'patron': 'boss'). So I don't
think it must resort to grammar, rather to vocabulary. PL is made to be
'naturalistic' (well, at least naturalistic to my opinion) and I like
leaving some distinctions that could be made by derivation into the
vocabulary. When I have this language evolved, maybe such derivation will
appear.
Christophe Grandsire
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