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Re: Weekly Vocab 6: to know

From:Herman Miller <hmiller@...>
Date:Thursday, May 8, 2003, 2:43
On Wed, 7 May 2003 13:09:42 -0400, "Mark J. Reed" <markjreed@...>

>On Wed, May 07, 2003 at 08:57:45AM -0700, Garrett Jones wrote: >> something interesting i noted with people's translations for the verb 'to >> know': all but one person's conlang either had more than one word for the >> english word 'to know' or omitted a word in one case. >That is interesting. Many natlangs distinguish "to know" as in >"to know a person" (Spanish conocer, German konne?) from "to know" as in >"to know a fact" (Spanish saber, German weiss?), but I haven't run across >many who distinguish "to know a fact" from "to know how to do something". >The partcular way the latter gets expressed is highly idiomatic >(English sticks the "how" in there, Spanish just uses the bare infinitive), >but they usually seem to involve the same verb as the former. > >So how come we conlangers all felt the need to make this distinction?
Tirelat doesn't even use a verb for "know how to", but instead uses a suffix (-rei)! The other versions of "know" are both _naza_ in Tirelat. I don't know when I started distinguishing "know" (facts) from "know how" (to do something), but it may have been around the time I was learning Russian, which has a similar distinction (_znat'_ vs. _umet'_). -- languages of Azir------> ---<>--- hmiller (Herman Miller) "If all Printers were determin'd not to print any email password: thing till they were sure it would offend no body, \ "Subject: teamouse" / there would be very little printed." -Ben Franklin