Re: CHAT: the enneagram

And Rosta <a-rosta@...> wrote:

>Mike:
>> And Rosta <a-rosta@...> wrote:
>>
>> >Mike S.
>> >>
>> >> But yes, INTP's are overrepresented here for sure.  BTW,
>> >> the enneagram is interesting too.   Check out the description
>> >> for type Five.  http://www.enneagraminstitute.com
>> >>
>> >> If you get the gist of Riso's "wing" theory, then you'll know
>> >> what I mean when I say I am a Five with a Four-wing which acts
>> >> up now and then.
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>Can you recommend something along the lines of what I am
>after: something that defines not so much a small set of types
>but rather the principal parameters of variation?
Beyond the 4 pairs in the Meyer-Briggs? There must be something
on this somewhere, since it seems an awful lot has been done
in personality testing over the years.

A quick google brought up this:
http://www.dfki.uni-sb.de/~baldes/rocco/personality/node8.html
which includes the following:
     "Describe people in terms of their manner, type and motivation,
      emotional state, and how they relate to each other.
          Open: curious, broad interests, creative, original,
                imaginative, untraditional
          Conscientious: organised, reliable, hard-working,
                self-disciplined, honest, clean
          Extravert: sociable, active, talkative, optimistic,
                fun-loving, affectionate
          Agreeable: good-natured, trusting, helpful, forgiving,
                gullible, straightforward
          Neurotic: worries, nervous, emotional, insecure,
                inadequate, hypochondriac"
Though I suspect there are other parameters besides/beyond these.

>I'll succumb to your invitation with unseemly readiness!
>
>The free enneagram test had me split almost equally on all
>types with troughs at 3 and 8, which are at the least the types
>most inapplicable. Reading the online descriptions it would be
>5 or perhaps 4, though reading descriptions elsewhere, 5 fits
>better.
>
>Doing Myers-Briggs tests before, I always come out as IN, but
>with any of the other four combos, perhaps with INTP as the
>most pronounced. Doing the online test other people have been
>doing gives INTP (78, 56, 56, 33).
My self-disclosure: I just tried the online version of the
Enneagram myself, and it seemed to confirm my previous experience
with Enneagram typing that I am a Four with a Five wing. According
to MB, I am an xNFP - I've taken the test at least three times over
20 years and that much has been consistent, and the scores were
usually quite marked in one direction for those three factors. For
the E/I factor the scores were usually equivocal, only putting me
into one camp or the other by a couple of points, and on one online
version I actually scored 50-50, so XNFP. I feel I am much more an
INFP than ENFP.

Bfowol