Re: Question: help me!
From: | Fabian <rhialto@...> |
Date: | Thursday, August 19, 1999, 6:43 |
>>>I'm a new conlang/auxlang lists member from Russia. I am really a fan of
an idea of IAL, ... I ask, would someone of you can help me to find the lang
I need? I hope now I really find a beautiful, maximum natural and simple
conlang, which is really worth to learn seriously .
Ultimately, the best IAL is the one all the other IALers are speaking.
Currently, I suspect that might be Esperanto.
2) "natural" pronunciation of letters c, g, s, ex. [ca]=[ka], but
[ce]=[tse] or [se] (or even [che]), [osa] = [oza], avanta[ge]=[zh]; and
diphthongs, ex. ph=f, th=t, anar[ch]ia=[k] etc., as in I-a;
How is any of that 'natural? To me, natural pronunciation for a language
ought to be phonetic, certainbly it shouldn't vary with the adjacent vowel.
3) sex: -a - feminine ending, -o - musc. ending., -e - neutral,
What about foxes, rabbits, and badgers? They don't seem very neuter to me.
And humanity in the abstract sense? I suspect far more important that having
specific gender ending in a language is enforcing a natural gender for
nouns. This means no masculine chairs or feminine books.
4) plural: -s ending only!; as in I-a, Novial
Why not with an -en ending, as in German? or -i, as in Latin? Or -in, as in
Hebrew? Why mark it at all, as in Japanese? Why not a dual form, as in
Arabic? Or...
These examples are all 'natural', by the way.
7) SIMPLE grammar (as in Esp-Ido): 3 tenses (past, present, future) +
conditional + imperative + infinitive. There must no be difficult
forms, as accusative and so on, and no grammatical endings a priori
(not as in Esp-Ido). No analytic tenses with auxiliaries, and no three
groups of verbs, as in I-a & Novial;
I suspect 2 'tenses' (perfect, imperfect) makes for an even simpler grammar.
And how is having an accusative form implicitly more difficult than having a
strict word order (every language must have one or the other)? Every
language must also make a choice between either pre/post-positions, or
grammatical endings, and again, I ask, which is intrinsically simpler?
Personally, I suspect analytical tenses are simpler than inflected tenses.
It seems curious that you are prepared to inflect verbs, but not nouns.
Think of noun/preposition combinations as analytical nouns, if you will.
8) natural accenting, as in I-a: olympIco, mEdico, polItica, revolUcion,
repUblico etc.
How is that natural? It looks decidedly unnatural for Maltese speakers,
whose language has a straightforward stress rule.
Overall, I think you should re-consider exactly what you mean by 'natural'.
Also, I suspect this would have been better asked on the auxlang mailing
list.
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Fabian
I know you understand what you thought I said,
But I'm not sure you understand that what you thought I said
is not what I meant to say.