Re: USAGE: [YAEPT] (was Re: "To whom")

Ladies and gentlemen, allow me to jump into the fray as well :D

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 00:45:31 -0500, Rob Haden <magwich78@...> wrote:

>On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 16:18:50 +1100, Tristan McLeay
><conlang@...> wrote:
>
>>Colloquially I say [m&~@~nt@n] or [m&~V~nt@n] or something. If I'm
>>being careful I'm informed it's [m&~O~nt@n], though I used to would've
>>called it [m&~u\~nt@n]. In any case, the first element's significantly
>>more obvious. The first [n] is weaker though, so it might approach
>>[m&~:d@n] in sloppy speech, which is sorta like you [maU?n=] :)
For me: meddle=medal=[medl=], mettle=metal=[metl=], mountain=[maUntn=]

>>It definately happens to me with diphthongs (incl. ee and oo as in feed
>>and food), so that 'laid' has a longer vowel than 'late'. Some people
>>will try to mislead you into believing it also happens (IMD) with /&/,
>>but that lengthening there is much more prominent and closer to being
>>phonemic (it's noticeable by linguistic naives and happens to some
>>words but not others); it also doesn't happen according to the same
>>rules as with the diphthongs. I think it there's a slightly shorter
>>allophone of the long monophthongs (/2:/ in err, /e:/ in air, /a:/ in
>>are etc).
>
>Yeah, me too.  "Feed" = [fi:d], "food" = [fu:d], "laid" = [leId] ~
>[le:d], "late" = [let_h] or [le?].  Vowels stay long before /r/, too: "err"
>= [E:r\], "air" = [e:r\], "are" = [a:r\].
For me: feed=feet=[fi:t], food=foot=[fu:t], laid=late=[l&:t], err=[@R],
air=[&R] or [&@], are=[a:]

>>Most emphatically it does not happen with the short monophthongs; /bed/
>>and /bet/ have a vowel of the same length.
Both [b@t] for me.

>There's something else I've noticed about my own speech and I'm curious to
>see how many others do it.  In active participles of verbs whose stems end
>in vowels, do the rest of y'all have glides between the vowels?  I'm
>talking about things like this: "skiing" = ['skijiN] ~ ['skijEn], "going" =
>['gowiN] ~ ['gowEn], etc.
For me: skiing=[skaiiN] (with diphtong), going=[goin] (no diphtong)

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