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Re: USAGE: [YAEPT] (was Re: "To whom")

From:J. 'Mach' Wust <j_mach_wust@...>
Date:Thursday, January 27, 2005, 12:20
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:03:08 +0100, Henrik Theiling <theiling@...> wrote:

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>"J. 'Mach' Wust" <j_mach_wust@...> writes: >>... >> That reminds me that I've heard somewhere that there are some exotic >> languages that allow the combinations [t_}d] or [d_}t] at the beginning >> of a word! My ears and my mouth immediately rebelled. ... > >Oh yes, Zhu|'hoansi for one, IIRC. I think the voiced one comes first >there. And, what's fascinating, the language contrasts it with >something like /t/, /d/, /t_h/ and /t_>/. :-)
Most remarkable! I fear I'd tend to confuse /t/, /d/, /t_>/, and /dt/, being used to a two-way distinction...
>Concerning [t_}d] inside words, I think I have this in German >|mitdenken|: ['mIt_},dENk_nN=] and similar words, but not at >beginnings of words as that marvelous language.
Since my pronunciation of /d/ is voiceless, I rather pronounce something like ['mI"t:ENk_nN=].
>Zhu|'hoansi also has a velar contrast /gk/ [g_}k], and what even more >fascinating, keeps that contrast for clicks! So you get clicks that >start voiced and are released voiceless. Great! :-) I don't know how >this can possibly be distinguished when a *loud* palatal *PLOCK* >overlays it all. :-)
Astonishing! kry@s: j. 'mach' wust

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