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Re: /S/ in old and middle High German; was: Vikings

From:John Cowan <cowan@...>
Date:Thursday, November 25, 2004, 5:19
Sally Caves scripsit:

> >MHG had two /s/ sounds, one laminal /s_m/ > >corresponding in most cases to modern _ß/ss_ and one apical /s_a/ > >corresponding mostly to modern _s_ /z/. > > I'm still unsure what _m or _a refers to in CXS. Or any underscore.
The distinction is between the ordinary [s], more explicitly written [s_m], where the articulation is made with the blade of the tongue, and [s_a], the Castilian Spanish |s|, which is made with the *tip* of the tongue. The acoustic impression is of a faint whistle. Most s's in most languages are [s_m]. Some exceptions include Basque, which uses |z| for [s] and |s| for [s_a]; and Finnish and Bengali, which have no phonemic distinction between [s] and [S], and use [S] to realize their single phoneme.
> Although I gather that underscores around a letter represent the letter as > letter. Like | |.
Underscores around _anything_ are a way of italicizing it. The meaning of italics must be glorked from context.
> > --hence the Hungarian values of _s_ and _sz_! > > I'm not familiar with the Hungarian values.
|s| is /S/, whereas |sz| is /s/. Similarly, |z| is /ts/ and |zs| is /Z/. -- If you have ever wondered if you are in hell, John Cowan it has been said, then you are on a well-traveled http://www.ccil.org/~cowan road of spiritual inquiry. If you are absolutely http://www.reutershealth.com sure you are in hell, however, then you must be cowan@ccil.org on the Cross Bronx Expressway. --Alan Feuer, NYTimes, 2002-09-20

Replies

Tristan Mc Leay <conlang@...>
Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>Hungarian sibilants (was: /S/ in old and middle High German)