Re: OT: Junk

In a message dated 2003:09:11 08:45:10 PM, latinfrench@SAGESCHOOL.ORG writes:

>Monkey King writes:
>
>>  >Now, "junk": the Mandarin word is "fan1chuan2" (Cantoversion as Sun
>>>Wukong's latest incarnation, Mr. Czhang, gives us: "fan1sün4" (okay,
>>>I acquiesce, "faan1suen4")).
>
>>     :)  Of course my limited Cantonese is thrice-removed from the
"homeland"
>>- I learned what I know from my father and his pronunciation is a lil
>>more the South East Asian Cantonese that he learned growing up in Indonesia
and
>>Malay(sia).
>
>They're exactly the same thing. The former is my own little
>romanization thang; the latter, what's been used in Heung Kung for
>decades.
    Ah... ::oddly delighted that at least the Romanization is understandable
if not the pronunciation::

>>  > Literally, it's "sail""boat" (fan = sail; chuan = boat), but obviously
>>>doesn't first >conjure up to Chinese minds the notion of the Western
>>recreational vessel.
>
>>     *snarfle!* _bat siu wa_ (no joke).... Many of the more "tribal" Hakka
>>fishing people, who live in the Hong Kong Harbour, live on old-style
>>wooden junks converted into houseboats. Think of it as a floating
shantytown or
>>water-based ghetto.
>
>M ho yi si la. Laughing at, or condescending to, abject poverty is
>totally uncool
    My laugh - *snarfle!* - is the eatin' bitter long-time "AiYah!" kind. . .
    1. I am myself am "economically endangered" & identify with the Hakka
    2. I was quite amused by the Western Notion

>but still, I cannot help but have a Romantic vision
>of the Chinese houseboat lifestyle. I so want to float around Guilin
>with an egret, wok in tow.
    You old soul, ya musta been a Taoist hermit or sage in a previous,
near-ancient lifetime ;)

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>Finally a religious statement I can agree with:
>
>the Zoroastrian teaching that it is a sin for a person to be boring.
Only boring people get bored.


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