subjective temperature(was Re: idea: environment pronoun)
|From:||nicole dobrowolski <fuzzybluemonkeys@...>|
|Date:||Monday, April 15, 2002, 13:16|
froge sionk Garrett Jones...
> i have this idea for Minyeva (my conlang) for what i will call an
> "environment pronoun". I am going to describe it here, and i was
> wondering if anyone's seen anything similar in a natlang or
> In english the equivalent meaning is realized as 'it'. In
> esperanto, it is
> realized as a null subject.
> -"it" is hot.
> -"it" is raining.
so i was trying to figure out how i would do this in narethanaal and
i've come up with a question... first of all (and totally irrelevant
to my question) 'it is raining' would be 'sule yest lepa loked to
kya' or 'water is falling from the sky' thereby easily circumlocuting
the 'it' structure... something having to do with temperature would
also be handled without an 'it'... thermometers are all well and good
but generally the classification of something as 'hot' or 'cold' has
to do with the opinion/perception of the speaker/writer/oogly boogly
monkey child... so in narethanaal you would say something like 'i am
cold' or 'i am cold outside' rather than 'it is cold' or 'it is cold
outside'... so i was wondering what 'cold' would be in this
instance..? adjective? direct object? and what about 'outside'? and
would 'cold's function change in the sentence that includes 'outside'
or some other clarification? you might even say something like 'i am
cold the refridgerator' for 'the refridgerator is cold' though i'm
not sure if i'm translating that properly...
i guess i'm an extra curious monkey today...
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