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Re: CHAT: Vexillology and games (was: Re: Flag ofEngland)

From:Roger Mills <romilly@...>
Date:Friday, June 23, 2000, 5:31
>>The proto-form is AN *Rusa, where *R stands for the correspondence: Ml. >>/r/, Dayak /h/, Jav. zero, Tag. Bis. /g/, with unexpl. irregularities >>everywhere.
Danny Wier wrote:
>Is R a uvular roll as in German and French? My best friend's first wife,
an
>Ilokana, said that many Philippine and Malay-Indonesian languages had that >form of 'r'.>
True, in modern langs. it's variously a voiced or voiceless velar fricative, in addition to a trill /r/, stop /g/, glottal fric. /h/,... sometimes /l/, /y/ and likely others; Polynesian zero. But in the Proto Language, *R just represents the correspondence. It was originally symbolized with l.c. gamma, _probably_ a voiced velar fric., but that's equivalent to giving phonetic reality to IE *bh (or was it *p', or....). A theoretical no-no, at least to the Old School.