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Re: request

From:Jake X <starvingpoet@...>
Date:Thursday, December 19, 2002, 1:28
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From: "Thomas R. Wier" <trwier@...>
To: <CONLANG@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: Request


> Quoting Jake X <starvingpoet@...>: > > > > I think there's a distinction to be made between the literal > > > rendering of a sentence with or without pronoun in such languages > > > (in which the "meaning" would be identical) and the illocutionary > > > force which each is meant to carry. In formal semantics, "meaning" > > > describes the former condition of identity, not the latter sense > > > of pragmatics. > > > > So then couldn't the difference between "We eat" and "we do eat" work
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> > this exercise? > > Right. Both can be rendered informally as "There is an x and a y > such that x eats and y eats and x is not equal to y and ((x = me and > y = you) or (x = you and y = me))". The difference between them lies > in the discourse pragmatics of each.
Sounds pretty formal to me. ;)
> ========================================================================== > Thomas Wier "I find it useful to meet my subjects personally, > Dept. of Linguistics because our secret police don't get it right > University of Chicago half the time." -- octogenarian Sheikh Zayed of > 1010 E. 59th Street Abu Dhabi, to a French reporter. > Chicago, IL 60637
Jake