Re: ATTN: Dan Sulani! Re: OT More pens (was Re: Phoneme winnowing continues)

On 11 June, Steg Belsky wrote:


On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 12:04:46 -0500 Nik Taylor <yonjuuni@...>
writes:
> > Second, I don't see the connection between the letters printed in
> > books and letters written by hands. I've never felt like they were
> > comparable, so why
> > should I try to copy a machine?
> But, they're the same letters.  It still seems odd to me to start
> off with the form that's most different from what you see printed.
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We should ask Dan Sulani what they do in Israel, since many of the printed
graphemes look nothing like the handwritten ones, for example the letter
Alef looks vaguely like "X" in print, but "Ic" in 'cursive'.

    I haven't been following this thread, so I'm not
certain what's being asked here. I'm assuming
(correct me if I'm wrong) that you're asking how
kids here in Israel first learn to write: print or cursive.
    If so, the answer is:  the printed form (first grade)
and then the cursive form (second grade).
    Although, I was at a  _preschool_  yesterday, and,
while I was talking with the teacher, she matter-of-factly
told a kid to sign his name on the picture he had colored.
(Lots of preschool kids here know how to write their names,
but can't write anything else yet.)
He signed the picture using "printed" letters.
    Note: "print-style writing" for first graders is a very simplified,
"stick-figure" approximation of the more "calligraphic"
style normally encountered in books, newspapers, etc.
    Adults sometimes also use the stick-figures. For example:
I usually fill out forms, in Hebrew, with cursive writing.
But if the form calls for filling it in with "printed letters",
the good old first grade stick approximations are what is being
requested.
    BTW, texts for beginning readers often start out
with the "stick-figure" approximations and then move on
to the regular style of printed letter.


Dan Sulani
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