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Re: Nouns, verbs, adjectives... and why they're p

From:Charles <catty@...>
Date:Friday, December 11, 1998, 4:55
Mathias M. Lassailly wrote:

> I don't think that anyone can at the same time deny something > and try to understand it. I doubt that you be the first one > to ponder over that problem in the past two millenaries > and the schoolboy's answer *permanence, immanence, remanence* > is a hint that I humbly feel worth meditation. Your question is > a flat one, whereas it raises many different aspects of language
I see all-the-time cases where thinking is unconsciously shaped by language structure or metaphor. So I would be an extreme Whorfist. Philosophy must be carefully separated from the carrier language to avoid confusion. So I would usually just avoid philosophy ...
> Take my favourite example : *the nice dancer* = the agent > who dances well or the person who is nice. You choose either > the noun or the verb *hidden* inside the the noun.
This problem is easily handled algebraically. If A is the agent, D is the dancing, and N is the niceness, we need to decide between N + (D * A) which is the default precedence, and (N + D) * A which is somehow "marked", as in Old New Jerseyan we would say, umm, I can't say that here.