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Re: /nj/ vs. /J/ [was Re: sounds I can't find!!!]

From:Isaac A. Penzev <isaacp@...>
Date:Tuesday, August 17, 2004, 8:31
Andreas Johansson jazdy:

> How did they arrive at /kanak/ for "New Caledonian"?
Philip Newton jazdy:
> Fairly straightforwardly, I imagine; it's the self-designation of the > inhabitants.
This was the answer. And I certainly meant aboriginal population of that land. And the word is hardly known to an average Russian speaker. I merely wanted to demonstrate /n;/ ~ /n;j/ opposition when I thought it would be good to add a non-palatal variant. So this was the first thing that came to my mind. Giving phonetic explanations, I don't care much about ethymology. Anyway, I've forgotten (as well as the other guys) to add "Obligatory Conlang Info"! No good. So I do it here: ObConlang: Kuman Tyli also distinguishes [n] ~ [n;] ~ [n;j] e.g. [k;un] 'day' ~ [k;un;u] 'his day' ~ [k;un;je] 'day ('. I'm not sure if this distinction is phonemic, because the underlying phonemic structure seems to be like this: /kün/ ~ /küni/ ~ /künja/. -- Yitzik