Re: USAGE: /t/ (was Re: USAGE: Schwa and syllabification
|From:||And Rosta <a.rosta@...>|
|Date:||Monday, March 15, 2004, 22:44|
> On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 16:48:32 -0000, And Rosta <a.rosta@...> wrote:
> > Scouse would have followed a similar path, except that the coronal
> > segments are apicoalveolar rather than laminodental. (So _pith_,
> > _pit_ and _piss_ all end in fricatives and all contrast.) Because
> > the step to [h] was lexically selective, you end up with contrasts
> > like _not_ [nQh] vs _knot_ [nQ$] (where $ is a fricative one
> > might symbolize in IPA by [t] with an openness diacritic added).
> > (All things considered, I'd say that _not_ has allomorphs /nQt/
> > and /nQ/.)
> So this /$/ is the same as the so-called Irish slit-fricative, right?
It's a slit fricative, yes.
Irish Irish or Irish English? If Irish Irish, then I don't know. If
Irish English, I'm not sure -- my intuitions based on inadequate
opportunities for observation are that Ir.E. /t/ is a voiceless tap
(in the usual places -- foot internal, word final, etc.)
> Then it could be represented in IPA one of two other ways - by a
> <theta> with the retraction mark underneath or, dipping into extIPA
> symbols, <theta> with an <=> underneath (indicating an alveolar
> slit fricative).