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Re: Weekly Vocab again?

From:Sylvia Sotomayor <kelen@...>
Date:Sunday, March 30, 2003, 22:41
I've been experimenting with dialects. Eastern Kélen (EK) is mostly like
Standard Kélen (SK), but with a few syntactic, phonetic, and lexical changes
(so far).

il Sunday 30 March 2003 06:21 am, il temenne ke Christopher Wright ien:
> 1. to think -sónn- > I think about many things.
SK: pa lién jassónnien ná; EK: ñalla jassónnien ná; jassónnien ná = N.Distributive + Quantifier 'various thoughts' + 'many of them', thus emphasizing that the many various thoughts are disttributed among subjects. In SK, pa is the whole/part relational, so PA 1ps 'many various thoughts' or 'I have many various thoughts.' In EK, ñalla is the causative relational NI + agent or 'I make many various thoughts.'
> 2. to plan -tút- > I plan to go to town today.
SK: jaliTa pa letúta ñi rá antóni; EK: jaliTa an letúta ñeleñ rá antóni; jaliTa = 'today'; rá antóni = 'to town' letúta is an inherently possessed noun - 'my intention/plan' SK: today PA my-intention NI to town, where NI+rá means 'go to', thus 'Today, my intention contains going to town.' EK: an is the present/progressive tense of LA 'be', and ñeleñ is the 1ps reflexive form of NI, thus 'Today, my intention is making myself (go) to town.'
> 3. road -tón-/-Tíñ- > I will go by the low road.
SK: réha ñi lién rá jatóna jatá nó; EK: réha ñeleñ rá jaTíña jatá áñ; réha is a future aspect marker; NI + rá = 'go' rá jatóna jatá nó = to street/road low-one along & rá jaTíña jatá áñ = to path/road low-one among/on note that the -tón- in jatóna 'road' is the same as in antóni 'town' (> 'crossroads') SK: future NI to street low-one along = 'I will be going along the low road.' EK: future to path low-one on = 'I will (make myself) go on the low path.'
> 4. cloak / coat / culturally acceptable heavy outer garment -lúr- > I took my warmest cloak.
SK: te jalúra-nle ñe jacálle ná níkanle; EK: teleñ jalúra-nle ñe jacálle ná; jalúra-nle ñe jacálle ná = cloak-mine same warm-one more/most = 'my warmer/est cloak' SK: LA+past 'my warmest cloak' together-with-1p = 'My warmest cloak was with me.' EK: 'my warmest cloak' = 'I took (for myself) my warmest cloak.'
> 5. to stumble -táríñ- > I stumbled on the road.
SK: tele jatáríñ rá jatóna nó; EK: tele jatáríñ rá jaTíña áñ; jatáríñ = a little fall, a stumble (N.singular) SK: 'stumble' 'along the street' or 'I was given a stumble on the road' EK: same as above, but with "jaTíña áñ" for 'on the road'
> 6. wind -úrán- > The wind was fierce.
SK: tielen pa anúráni anrañáka; EK: te anúráni anrañáki; SK: past-aspect PA winds(N.collective) fierce-ness(N.stative) = 'The winds had fierceness.' EK: LA+past winds(N.collective) fierce-ones(N.collective) = 'The winds were fierce.'
> 7. to snap -taxét- (actually - 'hit, strike, tap...') > It snapped my cloak.
SK/EK: te jataxéti mo jalúra-nle; SE+past hits/blows/taps/attacks(N.plural) beneficiary my-cloak. 'It/they gave attacks to my cloak.' (assuming it/they = wind(s)) Note that LA+past and SE+past have the same form. We can tell this "te" is from SE because of the mo-phrase.
> 8. to freeze -kecílr- > My ears are freezing.
SK: pa lesári ankecílre; EK: an lesári jakecílri; lesári = inherently possessed noun 'my ears' SK: PA my-ears frozen-ness(N.stative) 'My ears have frozenness.' EK: LA+present/progressive my-ears frozen-things(N.plural) 'My ears are becoming frozen-things.'
> 9. ice -élk- > I think they have become ice.
SK: pa letóla ñi ja jélki órra; EK: an letóla ñi ja jélki órra; letóla = inherently possessed noun 'my belief/thought'. Note that this is different from the root -sónn- in sentence 1. SK: PA my-belief NI 3p-inan. pieces-of-ice completive-aspect = 'My belief is/contains they have been made into ice.' EK: LA+present/progressive my-belief NI 3p-inan. pieces-of-ice completive-aspect = 'My belief is/I am believing (that) they have been made into ice.'
> 10. inn -láseran- (the guild house for the Guesting/Hosting guild, a good
place for strangers to go for lodging/baths/sex/local info... or for locals to go to for baths/sex/etc, sort of a cross between a hotel, a brothel, and a bathhouse. Food is served, but it is handled by a different guild. The local equivalents of the hairdresser and the tailor are usually also nearby.)
> I arrive at the inn half-dead.
SK: tielen ñi lién maráña sú jaláseran á manóña ámíwe; EK: tielen ñalla anráña sú jaláseran á manóña ámíwe; sú jaláseran = at the inn á manóña ámíwe = an agentive phrase, renaming the agent for NI, where "á" is the case marker, "manóña" is the animate noun 'dead person' (as opposed to 'corpse, body'), and "ámíwe" is a quantifier/qualifier meaning 'nearly, almost'. SK: past-aspect NI someone-arriving/arrived ... so 'I was made an arriver at the inn as the almost dead.' EK: past-aspect arrival ... , thus 'I made an arrival at the inn as the almost dead.' -- Sylvia Sotomayor The Kélen language can be found at: This post may contain the following characters: á (a-acute); é (e-acute); í (i-acute); ó (o-acute); ú (u-acute); ñ (n-tilde);