Theiling Online    Sitemap    Conlang Mailing List HQ   

Re: THEORY: Ray on ambisyllabicity

From:dirk elzinga <dirk.elzinga@...>
Date:Tuesday, October 17, 2000, 21:47
On Sun, 15 Oct 2000, Nik Taylor wrote:

> And Rosta wrote: > > Yeah. We need to ask Dirk how he accounts for: > > > > Sal [saw] > > Sally [sali] > > > > in demotic SE Insular English, if /l/ isn't in an onset in "Sally". > > Also: > > I've noticed that all these different arguments are using different > dialects. Is it not conceivable that in some dialects it *is* > ambisyllabic, while in others it isn't? Or that some dialects have > /h&p.i/ while others have /h&.pi/, and perhaps some with ambisyllabic > consonants? In my dialect, for instance, I can find no evidence to > support the idea of the "ambisyllabic" consonants as even being onsets, > yet it seems that in this dialect it is an onset. I wonder, does that > dialect have evidence supporting /l/ as being a coda at all in Sally?
The issue for me is if ambisyllabicity exists *at all*; if it does, then one must look to the data to see if it applies in this or that dialect. Up until now, I have been reluctant to admit the possibility of ambisyllabicity *as a possible structure*, regardless of the dialect under consideration. This reluctance is admittedly based on theory-internal arguments, but there are other analyses available which account for the "ambisyllabic" facts without invoking ambisyllabicity. Dirk -- Dirk Elzinga dirk.elzinga@m.cc.utah.edu