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On 2/26/08, Hanuman Zhang <zhang@...> wrote:

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> Dada is the chameleon of rapid and self-interested change...."
>
>                                                        - Tristan Tzara
>
> "this is the song of a dadaist
> who had dada in his heart
> he tore his motor apart
> he had dada in his heart
This gives me a couple of ideas:

- The Tzara poem (one of my favorite French
poems) as a translation exercise:

dĕdâ-lô ŝu-i ŝrun gŏ,
mâ-lŏ im fâ-ŋĭw im dĕdâ.
ƥ ŝâj-i ƴâ-ĉa ĥy-i
ĵyj-fja-fwa-ƥ-zô,
gâ-lŏ im fâ-ŋĭw im dĕdâ.

Behold the music characteristic of a dadaïste,
part of whom is an emotion-faculty of which Dada is part.
His vehicle he causes to become tired,
part of which is an emotion-faculty of which Dada is part.


- The concept of a dadalang, a conlang with
deliberately dadaïste or surrealist semantics
(and grammar/phonology?  Not sure what would
make a dadaïste phonology.  Maybe a phoneme
inventory that includes a bunch of exotic stuff
while leaving out the most common phonemes
in the world?  Or phonotactics that allow complex
onsets and codas but forbid basic CV syllables...?
Dada grammar is a bit easier to imagine.).  Sonja Kisa's
jokelang Oouu (sp?) is the only one that comes
to mind; it has a phoneme inventory consisting entirely
of vowels, and a ridiculous degree of polysemy and
ambiguity.   gzb has some minor dadaïste elements
to its vocabulary/semantics, though not very
much because it's meant for my everyday use.

--
Jim Henry
http://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry/gzb/gzb.htm

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