Quoting Peter Bleackley <Peter.Bleackley@...>:
> Staving Thomas Wier:
>
> > > Also, it seems to me that Englishers tend to hear [dZ_0] as /dZ/ rather
> > > than /tS/. Nativers?
> >
> >That is the case. This is what you would expect if the contrast
> >in English is more between aspirated and nonaspirated than between
> >voiced and voiceless.
> >
>
> An alternative analysis might be that for a given voiceless consonant [c]
> and the corresponding voiced consonant [q], [c_h] is an allophone of [q]
> when whispering. (Note that c and q are arbitrary).
You mean that [c]=/q/ and [c_h]=/c/, don't you?
Andreas