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Re: OT: "Tracheal" consonants: a curiosity?

From:william drewery <travis65610@...>
Date:Wednesday, June 8, 2005, 21:11
You're right about the hebrew, sorry. Arabic also often avoids geminate gutterals,
but allows them time to time. I wonder if it's because they're difficault to
pronounce, or because noone wants to hear those sounds for longer than one has
to, lol.

Steg Belsky <draqonfayir@...> wrote:On Jun 7, 2005, at 3:19 AM, william drewery wrote:
>> Epiglottal stops are the same as ejective pharangeal stops. The >> glottis closes completely, while the tounge root retracts so far as >> to completely seal around the epilottis. The sound is similar to a >> forcefull glottal stop with a pharangeal offglide. In most of spoken >> Arabic, there's the ordinary glottal stop, the voiceless pharangeal >> fricative, a voiced pharangeal approximate for the single @ayn, and a >> full epiglottal stop for doubled @ayn. Doubled Haa' (voiceless >> pharangeal fricative) often has aryetenoid trilling, as well. The >> Oriental dialects of Hebrew follow a similar pattern. Agul is the >> only language i know of contrasting voiceless pharangeals with >> voiceless epiglottals. But !Xoo contrast pharangealized vowels, >> epiglottalized vowels, and creaky vowels, and also has the glottal >> stop as a consonant. >> William Drewery
For the single pharyngeal phonemes, sure, but Hebrew phonotactics doesn't allow geminated gutturals, and the guttural category includes |hhet| and |`ayin|. -Stephen (Steg) "i defend myself, therefore i exist." ~ herbert pagani __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com