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Re: OT: "Tracheal" consonants: a curiosity?

From:Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Wednesday, June 1, 2005, 13:20
François CHAUVET skrev:
> Hello, > > I was designing the phonetic inventory for a Conlang (no name yet), which > I wished would > > correspond to my (somewhat) unarticulated natural voice (in fact, I can > speak French almost > > without moving my lips). This is how I speak, and microphones are no help: > they just amplify
I speak with lax oral articulation, tense throat and nasal overlay, but at least there is a known medical reason. It never occurred to me to make a conlang with those characteristics, but it seems an interesting idea!
> what does not exist. > So, I chose to have "semi-rounded" vowels (easy, although I don't know of > any IPA symbol for
Why not use the "less rounded" diacritic ("subscript c"): CXS [u_c o_c y_c 2_c] IPA [u̜ o̜ y̜ ø̜]
>
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> The consequences of it are (1) pharyngeals are well beyond my reach, and > (2) I can now > > articulate what I call "tracheal consonants" -- namely a plosive which I > could denote by > > [q\\] and a fricative which I could denote by [X\\]. Both are unvoiced, > but since the vocal > > chords were left untouched, there is still some air left to make a voiced > version of these
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> Now, is this a pure curiosity? Are there any natlangs with such > consonants? These do > > resemble glottals, but aren't: can they be considered allophones, e.g. > [q\\] as allophone of > > [?]? The medics don't understand why I seem so interested in producing > such "noises" (I must > > admit they sound like eructation when improperly pronounced). How > far "back in the throat" > > is it possible to utter some "reasonable" consonant? > > Thank you for any advice.
Are you sure that these are not epiglottals? Just because 60% of the human race are unable to ptonounce such sounds doesn't mean that you aren't among the remaining 40%. -- /BP 8^)> -- Benct Philip Jonsson -- melroch at melroch dot se Solitudinem faciunt pacem appellant! (Tacitus)

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