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Re: THEORY: Question: Bound Morphemes

From:Charles <catty@...>
Date:Saturday, July 3, 1999, 20:27
I wrote:

> >Even in the sense of being "bound" by not occuring alone, > >"the" is just a form of "this/that", and "a/an" equal "one", > >which do stand alone. So in my dialect, they are liberated.
then, Nik wrote:
> I disagree. It's not uncommon for clitics to have "free" forms. For > instance, in French, _je_ is a clitic, but has the free form _moi_. > Also, I don't see "this/that" as being equivalent to "the". They are > bound. The forms "the", "a", and "an" can NEVER occur outside the noun > phrase. They are incontestably clitics. "A/an" has a free form "one", > but "the" has no free form.
I admit this at least partially; clitic may be the right term. But "the" is to "this/that" as "a/an" are to "one", so if one/an has a free form, that/the does too -- this is getting messy. I'd like to hear what you thought of Trask's story, which seems unassailable. It may be that we need a different term for articles that glom (Basque), vs. those that do not (English). Maybe it is just "clitic" vs. "affix"? No, you said clitics have bound and free forms; this can never be pinned down. then, Kristian Jensen wrote:
> Wow! That's interesting! You mean to say that in your dialect you > still consider "the" a demonstrative, and you still consider "a/an" > a numeral? So say I ask you a question like "Which one is yours?", > you could answer "The!"? That sounds really weird to me.
I would say "This!" or "That!" or "One!", very carefully henceforth. Now that the water is muddy and I am thoroughly confused about the most common words in my native language, I surrender the field. Would you use "bound" for anything other than determiners? A verb like "is" certainly does not stand alone, but isn't bound. Terminology not only confuses, it mutates too quickly to remember. I would never get through a modern linguistics course.