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Re: Some isolating verb patterns

From:Pascal A. Kramm <pkramm@...>
Date:Saturday, January 15, 2005, 15:22
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:36:41 -0800, Gary Shannon <fiziwig@...> wrote:

>Here is my first sketch of how to handle verb tenses >in my isolating project: > >With some verb roots borrowed (with minor alteration) >from Latin: > >Kuran - run >Vokas - call > >Past particle "sona": "Ko sona kuran." ("I ran."). >Future particle "kwona": "Ko kwona kuran." ("I will >run."). >Imparative particle "ga": "Ga kuran." ("Run!") >Past perfect particle "dao": "Ele dao kuran." ("He had >run.")
Your tense particles are too long - they should only be one syllable. Otherwise, they would get shortened in everyday use anyway. You should add a present particle. Also, I'd compound present+past perfect. Past and Future are too similar, that should be changed. Besides, if it's latin-based, you should use q for kw. My suggestion: Present "nu": ko nu kuran Past "son": ko son kuran Future "qan": ko qan kuran Imperative "ga": ga kuran Present perfect "nuson": ko nuson kuran Past Perfect "sonson": ko sonson kuran Futur II "qanson": ko qanson kuran
>Passive particle "bine": "Ko bine vokas." ("I am >called.") >Passive past: "Ko sona bine vokas." ("I was called.") >Passive past perfect: "Kui dao bine vokas." ("We had >been called.") >Passive future: "Te kwona bine vokas." ("It will be >called.")
Same here, should be one syllable only: "bi" Can also be combined with tense. Passive present "binu": ko binu vokas Passive past "bison": ko bison vokas Passive futur "biqan": ko biqan vokas ...
>Progressive "yn": "Ko kuran yn." ("I am running.") >Past: "Sele sona vokas yn." ("She was calling.") >Past perfect: "Kui dao kuran yn." ("We had been >running.")
Seems more logical to me to compound it with the tense: Continuous Present: ko innu kuran Continuous Past: ko inson kuran ...
>Progressive passive: "Tui bine vokas yn." ("They are >being called.") >Past: "Tui sona bine vokas yn." ("They were being >called.")
Likewise composition: Passive Continuous Present: ko inbinu kuran Passive Continuous Past: ko inbison kuran ...
>Present perfect particle "dingau": >...
Superfluent - if you use monosyllabic particles, you can compound times like Present Perfect etc. easily.
>Any thoughts or observations? > >I plan on taking my vocabulary primarily from Latin >with a smattering of Classical Greek based roots for >variety. The roots will be the result of applying >some fixed mutation rules to the Latin or Greek >equivalents. Applying the mutation rules to "Latin" >gives me "Ladish", which might end up being the name >of the language.
Sounds odd to me... Perhaps better combine Latin + Greek = Latek or something. -- Pascal A. Kramm, author of: Chatiga: http://www.choton.org/chatiga/ Choton: http://www.choton.org Ichwara Prana: http://www.choton.org/ichwara/ Skälansk: http://www.choton.org/sk/ Advanced English: http://www.choton.org/ae/

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