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Re: Ebisedian number system (I)

From:Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
Date:Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 21:43
JS Bangs wrote:
> People learn to count long before they > learn a whit about physics, and people generally start counting with their > fingers.
There are languages that use bases other than 5-10-20, tho. Some samplings from Mark Rosenfeld's numbers page (http://www.zompist.com/families.htm) Bam, a Sepik-Madang language, is curious for being a 4-based system. 10 is 'four-two and two', 12 is kiki tuol 'four-three', and so on. Curiously 20 kiki lim uses the usual Austronesian morpheme for 5, but 5 itself doesn't: 5 is kiki be kubua 'four and one'. The Kewa numbers represent just the beginning of a 24-member counting sequence. The first five numbers name the little finger through the thumb; but instead of continuing with the other hand the Kewa keeps indicating points a few inches along on the body: 9 = 'forearm', 15 = 'shoulder', 20 = 'ear', 24 rikaa = 'between eyes'. Kanum and Kimaghana seem to be base 6 systems. Northern Pame is interesting for being a consistent base-8 system. Some Amazonian languages, like Yanomami, have number roots only for 1 to 3. This doesn't at all mean (as hasty observers conclude) that the people can't count past 3. They have fingers and toes and know how to use them; and if a Yanomami leaves 20 arrows by you, and there aren't 20 when he returns, woe to you. A lack of roots just limits the numbers that can be named out loud-- or at least named out loud the same way every time, since speakers may be able to come up with ad hoc names. The Bakairi have a binary system; numbers above 2 (ahage) are formed by combinations of the words for 1 and 2 (though they stop at 6 and after that count by repeating mera 'this one'). -- "There's no such thing as 'cool'. Everyone's just a big dork or nerd, you just have to find people who are dorky the same way you are." - overheard ICQ: 18656696 AIM Screen-Name: NikTaylor42