Re: USAGE: (Mis)Naming a Language

On Thursday 28 October 2004 05:54, Sally Caves wrote:

 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: "Mark J. Reed" <markjreed@MAIL.COM <mailto:markjreed@...>>
 >
 > > On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 06:27:40PM -0400, Doug Dee
wrote:
 > >> Notice: I have conlangs under construction called
 > >> Revonian, Katevan, Lorian,
 > >> and Frankish.  Now no one else on earth can use those
 > >> names, since I was here
 > >> first. ;-)
 > >
 > > Think a natlang might have dibs on that last one. :)
 >
 > I think Doug was kidding with that last one. :)  And I
 > think I'm going to copy him on that name Katevan. :)

lol! If they spoke an own language in LotR's Lothlórien,
it'd be surely known as Lórian. "Revonian" reminds me of
Star Trek for some reason :P

Now, as for my conlangs, two out of four do not yield
G-hits. Last time I checked, (all in quotation marks) "Ve
Segelm A Laighödhét" and "Daléian" only gives conlang
related pages as results.
"Ayeri" seems to be an Arab (?) word. IIRC, I found pages
with transliterated Arab or something like that. I haven't
checked for "Ambrian" yet, but I wouldn't be that surprised
if there was really another language with that name.

Actually, my version of this name comes from the region
known to the Ayeri as the "Ambrian mountains" (Tay Rivanie
Nuambriye) [1]. "nu...ye" only means that the head noun of
the adjective is agentive (inanimate) plural, as rock is a
dead material (which is not shown in agentive) and there's
loads of this. <RANT> I don't know how to justify that the
adjective must be inflected for the agent, though ... maybe
I could say because "tay" is always in proper names mostly
when they stand on their own, and things with proper
names ... Or it is simply habit to assume that in such
constructions, the head word is *always* the doer of a
quality ... Whatever this phenomenom is called, it sucks if
you haven't got a water-proof definition! Are the mountains
_doing_ "being Ambrian" or are they _affected_ by being
Ambrian? Is this called "volitionality" at all? That's what
I called it when someone e.g. uninentionally is struck by a
tree and dies e.g. The person would then be a patient
because the person <episcene.3sg>self is not responsible
for dying.</RANT>

Carsten

(1) I've just made up the etymology completely from scratch,
and |ambri-| is indeed valid in Ayeri, which only allows
CVC in most cases -- but C+fluid, C+nasal and both vice
versa are allowed. [4] is also counted as fluid for yet
unknown reasons. "Ambrian" is the anglicized version of
"ambri".

--
Eri silveváng aibannama padangin.
Nivaie evaenain eri ming silvoieváng caparei.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, Le Petit Prince
  -> http://www.beckerscarsten.de/?conlang=ayeri