Re: CHAT: barbarisms (was: CHAT: Being both theologically correct and properly modern)

On Mon, 14 May 2001, Andreas Johansson wrote:

> Ference Valoczy wrote:
> >It's actually rather amusing to hear people try to say my last name...I've
> >hear [va"lA:tSi], [va"lA:ksi], [va"loutSi], [va"lA:ski] and many others.
> >I'm a bit recalcitrant and I insist on people getting as close as they can
> >to the proper pronunciation of ["va:lo:tsi], which generally ends up as
> >["va:lVtsi], which is close enough I guess. My sister though, in Hungary
> >or with Hungarian speakers naturally uses the proper pronunciation, but
> >with non-Hungarian speakers uses [va"lousi] (which makes me cringe... =) )
> >Interesting this is, how the pronunciation of names change...
>
> Hehe, I've sort of been mentally pronouncing your name as ["vA:lo:tSi]. So
> {cz} is a fancy spelling of {c} rather than of {cs}, or have I've got my
> Magyar orthography mixed up?
>
No, you have it right...originally the name was Va'lo'ci, meaning "from
the village of Va'lo'c", then in late 1700s we received a small nobility
grant and it became Va'lo'czi (my cousin who lives in Lund sells it like
that), then in mid 1800s we received a second small nobility and the
selling became as it is now. I think, we were allowed to write our name as
von Valocz in Austrian times, but nobody ever did...

-------ferko
Ferenc Gy. Valoczy

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