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Re: Fifth morphosyntactic category?

From:Paul Roser <pkroser@...>
Date:Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 14:31
On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:57:53 +0200, Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>
wrote:

>On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 00:30, Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...> wrote: >> Can't remember what you call the ones that make no distinctions... >> >> Agent, Patient, Intransitive... >> >> A!=P!=I Tripartite >> A=P!=I Monster Raving Loony >> A!=P=I Ergative >> A=I!=P Accusative >> A=I=P ? > >"The clairvoyant's option", at least according to >http://www.xibalba.demon.co.uk/jbr/ranto/r.html (which is where I >assume you got the label "Monster Raving Loony" from). > >I'm not sure what JBR's F) is called -- is that fluid-S? (Where a >voluntary experiencer is treated like an agent, an involuntary one >like a patient.)
Yes, (F) is an example of Fluid-S. Fluid-S is when certain verbs can take either and agentive/intentional/volitional or patientive/unintentional/nonvolitional reading; Split-S is when verbs are divided into two groups on some semantic basis - unergative vs unaccusative being one example. -Pfal *********************************************************** "The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." -- James Nicoll ***********************************************************