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Re: Optimum number of symbols

From:Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
Date:Friday, May 24, 2002, 0:12
Mike S. wrote:
> I don't quite agree. First of all, alphabets are not nearly universally > used. Secondly, the only people we gave an alphabet were the people > who did not have any writing at all. The Japanese, Chinese, etc. all > still have their indigenous non-alphabetic writing systems.
Well, the Koreans acquired the idea of the alphabet from the West, replacing their earlier usage of hanzi (completely in the North, mixed with hanzi in the South, I believe), and the Vietnamese have also abandoned the old hanzi-based system. I'm sure there's other examples.
> Furthermore, I doubt it was ever very likely that morphemic systems > were going to become universally used, and that's not just because > the Chinese didn't take over the world.
If the Chinese had, I'm sure other societies would've gone the way of the Japanese and developed a syllabic or perhaps even alphabetic script alongside the hanzi-based system. Logographic systems aren't very useful for inflected languages, but can be great for isolating languages.
> They developed the vowel because the Greek > language *needed* it.
Actually, some linguists think it was, in essence, an accident. They encountered these Phoenicians letters that they had no use for, and applied it to what they heard as the sound, so /?alEf/ (or something like that), which was used for /?/, sounded to them like it just started with /a/, so they used it for that sound. -- "There's no such thing as 'cool'. Everyone's just a big dork or nerd, you just have to find people who are dorky the same way you are." - overheard ICQ: 18656696 AIM Screen-Name: NikTaylor42