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Re: Optimum number of symbols

From:And Rosta <a-rosta@...>
Date:Sunday, May 19, 2002, 19:28
Mike S:
> Thus, in most cases, I would have to say the phonemic system is probably > optimum; > except for languages with very simple syllable structures, I think the > simplicity and > efficiency of the phonemic system easily trumps all contenders. If you are > inclined to > think this is mere bias, consider this: many conlangers have designed their > own alphabets, > but how many have designed syllabic sets? If anyone *has* designed a > complete > syllabic system, I'll bet my hat that it implements markers or some similar > regular device > to correspond directly to final nasal, vowel length, or some other > phoneme-level distinction. > Possibly without knowing it, they are, in fact, conceding the superior > efficiency > of the phonemic system.
My previous message outlines some of the reasons why I favour syllabaries. The Livagian syllabary is quasi-featureal by design; so rather as the tengwar's shapes provide information about the phonological features of the segment, so a character of the Livagian syllabary provides, in its shape, some information about the phonological features of the segments that compose it. At present the script is in a mess, with no form-- signification correspondences currently established, but in its earlier (and probably also its future) state, it was not strictly possible to analyse the script as based on a set of more primitive featural elements involving a constant form--signification correspondence. On another point, I would in a conlang want to reject a phonemic script because I reject the very notion of the phoneme. --And.

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Mike S. <mcslason@...>
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