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Re: Optimum number of symbols

From:Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
Date:Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 8:04
Jake X wrote:
> >ka-ta-ka-na, actually. ka-ta-ka-n-a would be romanized as katakan'a, > >which would be a syllabic /n/ between the last two /a/'s. > Really, for some reason I thought the only [n] in Japanese was sylabic.
[n] *is* the only syllabic consonant in Japanese, but non-syllabic [n] exists as well. The syllabic [n] is used in words like Nihon (Japan), Kon'ya (today), etc. {n'} is the usual romanization in cases where it could be ambiguous, as {konya} could theoretically exist. There are minimal pairs, but I can't think of any examples (ah, I just noticed that Philip Newton gave the example of kanen vs. kan'en). In the word _katakana_, syllabic _n_ isn't used (it is in _kanji_, tho - that would be written ka-n-ji in hiragana) For some reason, I often see romanizations like _on'na_, even tho there's no need for the apostrophe there - syllabic _n_ is the only thing that the first _n_ could be.
> Well, shows what I know about the language. My only knowledge of Japanese is > from my mother, a technical translator of it, and I only briefly tried to > learn the alphabet at one point.
It's actually a syllabry. -- "There's no such thing as 'cool'. Everyone's just a big dork or nerd, you just have to find people who are dorky the same way you are." - overheard ICQ: 18656696 AIM Screen-Name: NikTaylor42

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