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Re: Our Beholders (was Aesthetics)

From:Leo Moser <via_acadon@...>
Date:Saturday, October 20, 2007, 17:46

My platform still continues to create
difficulties when I try to post here (or on Auxlang).

Sorry.  I will try again.

What I was saying was:

Ray and others will remember that I wrote on the 
esthetics of languages some time back. There is 
even a rather sorry looking web page of mine on 
the subject, still posted. (I should update and 
clear it up, but other priorities have intervened) 

So glance at 

Comments much appreciated.

Then when it was stated: "beauty lies in the eye 
of the beholder ...

I commented:
"Yes, but we often have some idea who the beholders
are (or may be) for our projects."

This latter is key to much, for our "beholders"
will not be Klingons, or Etruscans, or (in the 
most part) those who can neither see or hear.
We can identify our beholders to a great extent
for any Worldlang that might succeed in this 

FYI: I am still working on my Acadon project, but
am not ready to upload anything yet -- and may never
be able I suppose.  But hope springs eternal ...

Best regards,                   LEO

Leo J. Moser

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--- On Sat 10/20, Leo Moser < via_acadon@EXCITE.COM > wrote:

From: Leo Moser [mailto: via_acadon@EXCITE.COM]
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:13:13 -0400
Subject: Our Beholders (was Aesthetics)

--- On Fri 10/19, =?iso-8859-1?q?J=F6rg_Rhiemeier?= < joerg_rhiemeier@WEB.DE > wrote:

From: =?iso-8859-1?q?J=F6rg_Rhiemeier?= [mailto: joerg_rhiemeier@WEB.DE]To:
CONLANG@listserv.brown.eduDate: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:13:52 +0200Subject: Re:
AestheticsHallo!On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:54:46 +0100, R A Brown wrote:> Edgard
Bikelis wrote:> [...]> > Maybe aesthetics are just for vain tongues : ).> >
Some would hold that all conlanging is vain.Some hold that all conlanging
except auxlanging is vain. However,I'd say that auxlanging is the vainest kind
of conlanging - it iscertainly more vain to aspire to create something that the
wholeworld will use on a daily base, than to create something just forthe fun
of it! Add to this that the race is practically alreadyrun, and English is the
winner.> I know well that there are some conlangs in which aesthetics do play
a> part. They are, I guess, mainly artlangs. Indeed, there is IMO no reason>
why aesthetics shouldn't play a part. I'm sure they played a large part> in
Tolkien's Quenya.Sure. Quenya was
made entirely to fit the personal taste of itscreator. Many, if not most artlangs
are that way. However,aesthetics sometimes play a role in other kinds of
conlangs as well.Many auxlangers try to make their languages beautiful because
theyfeel that a beautiful language will find it easier to be adoptedby millions
of people than an ugly one. Of course, beauty lies inthe eye of the beholder
Yes, but we often have some idea who the beholders
are (or may be) for our projects.
Regards, Leo J. Moser

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