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Re: CHAT: closet conlanging >> definitions?

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Wednesday, January 13, 1999, 9:04
At 10:25 13/01/99 +0200, you wrote:
>Matt Pearson wrote: >> >> Christophe Grandsire wrote: >> >> >What I wanted to say is an odd thing I saw since I began unhiding that I >> >was gay: my friends all accepted my homosexuality without a problem,=
with
>> >only some surprise, but when I say I'm a conlanger, they look at me as
if I
>> >was mad! (even my gay friends do that). I find this situation quite=
weird.
>> >After the Gay Pride, shall we have a Conlanger Pride? >> >> Perhaps! I've encountered this situation as well, and while I'm=
completely
>> out as a gay man, I'm still fairly closeted about my conlanging. Even >> after having been on the conlang list for years and having shared my work >> with countless people, I still often feel a knee-jerk sense of=
embarassment
>> and discomfort when revealing my conlanging inclinations to the
uninitiated.
>> The Maligned Art, as Sally Caves puts it. >> >> Matt. >> > > >Perhaps that's why we (I'm also gay) get into conlanging? As a kind of >lightening conductor to convert homophobic flak into conlangophobia! > >As for sodomy, I agree with Christophe that sodomy (in English, as in >French) refers to anal sex, regardless of whether it's male-male or >male-female. > >Steg was right to give the origins, in the Biblical story of Sodom. But >it should be noted that homosexuality / homosexual abuse was not, I >believe, originally seen as the main or only sin of the Sodomites. As I >recall, their main fault was total regard for others, so that someone >could die on the street without being helped (Steg can maybe help in >terms of whether this is Biblical or Talmudic in origin - I don't have >time to check). In that sense, how ironic that many of those loudest to >condemn sodomy (especially among the American Right) are the same who >promote just such a society, on the pretext of encouraging enterprise or >protecting the basic human right to own a gun and kill people with it. >
I'm not surprised. Such contradictions are common among such people. And when we enlighten them in front of those people, they always deny it! Hypocrisy, the disease all civilisations died of...
> > Shaul > >
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