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Re: sounds I can't find!!!

From:Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
Date:Monday, August 16, 2004, 6:06
Quoting Scotto Hlad <scotto@...>:

> I'm putting together a table for Vistulan that indicates all the sounds for > the language in IPA using CXS. > > In either case I don't remember how to get a few of the sounds that I'm > using. > > Can someone tell me how to write the following sounds in CXS? > > Consonants > c+hacek
Americanist and Czech c-hacek is [tS]. All bets are off if you're picking it from somewhere else ...
> n+tilde > I believe that the above would be > nj > but I'm not sure.
Spanish n-tilde is [J] (palatal nasal). [nj] would be a two-sound sequence, like in English 'minion'. Or perhaps you intend [n_j], a palatalized alveolar nasal.
> If I'm correct then the other sound I'm looking for would be analagous to > n+tilde only it would be m+tilde which would no doubt then be > mj > but again... I'm not sure.
I would guess you intend either the cluster [mj], or the palatalized nasal [m_j].
> Now for the tougher ones, vowel sounds. > > I realize that no two languages say sounds exactly the same. For that > matter, I also realize that sounds will vary, oft times greatly, between > regions. Bearing that in mind, how do I represent > > German 'au' or similarly Portuguese 'ao'
[au], to a first approximation. The German sound might be more accurately indicated as [Ao], modulo dialect. Or [aw], [Aw] if you want to indicate the second part as a glide; it's pretty much a question of taste.
> the sound in north American English > > i as in kite, flight, or German 'ei'
[ai], [aj]
> oi as in north American English soil, spoil German 'eu'
The American sound is [Oi], [Oj], the German [OY], [OH], or so. Andreas