Re: sounds I can't find!!!

On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 18:48:57 -0600, Scotto Hlad <scotto@...>
wrote:

> I'm putting together a table for Vistulan that indicates all the sounds
> for
> the language in IPA using CXS.
>
> In either case I don't remember how to get a few of the sounds that I'm
> using.
>
> Can someone tell me how to write the following sounds in CXS?
>
> Consonants
> c+hacek
That varies from language to language, and is not in the IPA. There is an
Americanist tradition of using it for the sound spelled in CXS as /tS/ or
/tS)/

> n+tilde
> I believe that the above would be
> nj
> but I'm not sure.
In CXS, the IPA letter n-tilde is /J/, in practice, I think the Spanish
letter n-tilde might be /J_j/

Is your sound a palatal n, or an alveolar n with a y after it, or what?

> If I'm correct then the other sound I'm looking for would be analagous to
> n+tilde only it would be m+tilde which would no doubt then be
> mj
> but again... I'm not sure.
Hmm. That's probably /m_j/ or /mj/, which means your n-tilde might be
/n_j/ or /nj/, or maybe /J_j/ or /Jj/

> Now for the tougher ones, vowel sounds.
>
> I realize that no two languages say sounds exactly the same. For that
> matter, I also realize that sounds will vary, oft times greatly, between
> regions. Bearing that in mind, how do I represent
>
> German 'au' or similarly Portuguese 'ao'
/Au/ or /Aw/ or /Au)/ or /Au_^/ -- all of these are largely equivalent

> the sound in north American English
>
> i as in kite, flight, or German 'ei'
/Ai/ or /Aj/ or /Ai)/ or /Ai_^/ -- see above

> oi as in north American English soil, spoil German 'eu'
Hm. When I try an American accent, it doesn't match the German 'eu' as it
was taught to me. The latter kinda matches the British 'oi', which is
/Oi/, /Oj/ and so on (see /Ai/ above), but it's not an exact match. The
American form might be /O@/ but I'm no dialectologist.




Paul