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Re: OT: Harry

From:Sarah Marie Parker-Allen <lloannna@...>
Date:Monday, January 27, 2003, 0:40
Indeed.  Thanks to that lovely Star Trek fanfic parody.

For those who want more, check these out:

http://www.merrycoz.org/papers/MARYSUE.HTM
http://missy.reimer.com/library/guide.html#5 ("Who is Mary Sue and Why Does
She Have to Die?")
http://www.fictionalley.org/primer/essays/ms.html
http://ljconstantine.com/column6.htm

>From the last, the five-second guide to Mary Suage:
"On the whole, Mary Sue fan stories tend to be written by new writers whose first idea for a story follow a pattern of self-insertion (acting out their personal fantasy vicariously through an original character), and their "Mary Sue" characters suffer from the following characteristics: -- She's perfect. Literally. Everyone likes her, she can fix the warp core with a bobby pin and a smile regardless of whether or not she's an engineer, she's got an excellent singing voice, and she's psychic too... -- She's got violet eyes, martial arts training that makes Trinity from The Matrix look like Elmer Fudd, hair down to there, and is usually sleeping with or the daughter of someone we all know and love. -- She's maverick, headstrong, stubborn, always wins in the end, and always shows "them" how her way is better. -- Regarding gender: Mary Sue is not an exclusively female phenomenon. Harry Stu tends to be cocky, maverick, and has all the girls swooning while the captain admires him for his courage, daring, cunning, swashbuckling, computer hacking, and romantic abilities." (HE IS TOM PARIS... oh, wait, sorry, I didn't mean to say that) And for those who want to hear some fanfic-slashers-talk-to-each-other convo, check this little beauty out (*cough*). It's basically a list of the worst mistakes and stupid things (done intentionally) that people make in the genre. http://www.trickster.org/fannishbutterfly/10_peeves.html I keep this for when I need to take a vacation from reality. It's a good reminder of why I am the way I am (the discussion of the physics of well... is... well...) Sarah Marie Parker-Allen lloannna@surfside.net http://www.geocities.com/lloannna.geo http://lloannna.blogspot.com "Give 'em the old flim flam flummox; Fool and fracture 'em; How can they hear the truth above the roar?" -- Razzle Dazzle/Chicago
> -----Original Message----- > Behalf Of John Cowan >
> Generically known as "Mary Sue" fanfic. > > -- > [W]hen I wrote it I was more than a little John Cowan > febrile with foodpoisoning from an antique carrot > jcowan@reutershealth.com > that I foolishly ate out of an illjudged faith
www.ccil.org/~cowan in the benignancy of vegetables. --And Rosta www.reutershealth.com --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by SURFSIDE INTERNET] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by SURFSIDE INTERNET]

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