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Re: Ancient Greek Phonology

From:Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Tuesday, September 19, 2000, 5:57
At 10:18 pm -0400 18/9/00, Nik Taylor wrote:
>Oskar Gudlaugsson wrote: >> Obviously, this is not a symmetrical vowel system. What's up with that? >> Why's there no /u/ or /o/?
>According to the article on Greek in The World's Major Languages, >Ancient (Attic)
(Attic) is important. It's pretty obvious that there was no standard ancient Greek pronunciation any more than there was a standard ancient Greek alphabet or a standard ancient Greek orthography. Most of our literature from the 6th & 5th cents BC happen to be written in the Attic dialect. But some important texts were not; Herodotos, e.g. wrote in the eastern Ionian dialect (or at least a literary form of it) and the works of Homer are in an artificial Epic dialect (con-dialect?); the surviving fragments of Sappho are in Aeolic etc, etc. It wasn't till the Alexandrian conquests "internationalized" Greek & the Koine developed that a standard pronunciation developed. Even then, in the Greek homeland, ancient dialect pronunciations lingered on. The modern Tsakonian, e.g. seems to be derive from a Doric, heavily contaminated by the Koine, which survived in southern Greece.
>Greek had the following monophthongs (some of these were >indicated by digraphs): > >i i: y y: >e e: o o: >E: O: > a a:
Possibly ;)
>However, in another section, it gives the pronunciations of the letters, >and there is no short /e/, but is a short /E/.
i.e. we simply do not know the details (and anyone who claims to do so is either naive or deluded IMHO) At any rate, it does
>seem asymmetrical > >And diphthongs: > eu yi e:i e:u >ai au a:i a:u >oi o:i
There was also o:u [....]
>> Also, how come /y/ 'y >> psilon' has been rendered as either 'y' or 'u' in English (and probably >> Latin)? > >Well, the Romans borrowed the letter ypsilon to render the sound /y/ of >Greek words (of course, even earlier, they'd gotten <v> from ypsilon, >via a dialect that hadn't fronted /u/). I'm not sure why <u> is often used.
The Romans did not know the ancient pronunciation. The only pronunciation the knew was the Koine. Some very early borrowings were made in speech through contact with Greeks in southern Italy where the Dorian settlements still pronounced upsilon as [u] or [u:]; thus we find 'Pyrrhos' rendered as _Burrus_. But in the Classical period the way upsilon was represented is consistent and reflected Koine pronunciation: (1) as _y_ if it was a monophthong, i.e. if following a consonant. (Initial _y_ is not found in Koine Greek; it was always preceeded by h_); (2) as _u_ if it occurred as the second element of a true diphthong, i.e. au, eu. (3) the digraph OY (omicron upsilon), which was pronounced [u:] in the Koine, is transcribed simply as _u_ (not _ou_). This threefold division still survives in modern Greek, thus: (1) the sound in Koine was /y/ or /y:/; in the modern language it is /i/ (modern Greek has lost phonemic vowel length); (2) AY, EY and HY are now /av/, /ev/ and /iv/ or /af/, /ef/, /if/ depending upon whether the following sound is voiced or not; (3) OY continues to be /u/. Back to the ancient vowels. Early Greek certainly had a similar system to Latin, i.e. /i/ /i:/ /u/ /u:/ /e/ /e:/ /o/ /o:/ /a/ /a:/ There were also many diphthongs: /ei/, /eu/, /ai/, /au/, /oi/, /ou/; /e:i/, /e:u/, /a:i/, /a:u/, /o:i/, /o:u/ as well YI to make it asymmetrical :) Changes: (a) Mid vowels. It seems that the long sounds were more lax or open than the short ones, i.e. /e:/ was [E:]. At any rate, secondary high, long mid vowels developed with Greek, e.g. -ens --> -e:s. It seems also that /ei/ and /ou/ tended towards monophthongs at an early date. Some dialects continued to write /e/, [e:] and [E:] as E, and /o/, [o:] and [O:] as O. (I'm not committing myself on the exact quality of the short vowel :) In Ionia, however, where clearly [ei] and [e:] had fallen together at an early date, and likewise [ou] and [o:] had fallen together, we find the following conventions adopted: SHORT LONG HIGH LONG LOW E EI [e:] H [E:] O OY [o:] ‡ [O:] This was adopted sometime during the 5th cent. by the Athenians and eventually became the part of the Greek Koine (with modified pronunciations). (b) Upsilon In Ionian and some other dialects, e.g. Boiotian & Attic, /u/ & /u:/ shifted to /y/ and /y:/. This left a gap, so to speak, at [u], which was early filled by OY which shifted from [o:] to [u:]. This became the standard Attic pronunciation which later formed the basis of the international Koine pronunciation. But some dialects, noticeably Doric, hang onto older forms. Oh dear - I'm running out of time. The diphthongs will have to wait till this evening :) Ray. ========================================= A mind which thinks at its own expense will always interfere with language. [J.G. Hamann 1760] =========================================