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Date:Tuesday, September 21, 1999, 22:27
Dans un courrier dat=E9 du 21/09/99 22:57:28  , Charles a =E9crit :

> > > "the guy who i usedta date his sister comma is angry now" > > > ^^^ ............. ^^^ ...... ^^^^^ > > > > > one natlang does so : indonesian : > >=20 > > "orang YANG saya biasa meminang kakak perempuan-NYA ITU > > man WHO i use_to date younger_brethren female-HIS END > >=20 > > dia marah semarang." > > he angry now. > =20 > You've been there and done that too.
been here, there and elsewhere. i had too. it's SO incredibly exotic to langmakers like Rick Harrison. can you imagine ? he randomly browses on my page for some reason - i get phone calls from people dialing wrong numbers sometime - then he reads that some conlang manages a [a[b[c[d[e[f][g][h][i]]]]]] configuration due to the fact that some natlang can do same by putting lots of yang and itu one after the other. so cool that nobody questions the sanity of the guy speaking that way.
> =20 > > use of juxtaposition to express general genitive ? and the > > absence of tense ? and of article ? and they don't even have > > a word for "sister" ! > =20 > Yes, I stole all those ideas already. Any more? > =20
sure : peanut sauce on chicken bbq.
> > chinese do sort of, but at least they've got tones and ideograms > > to make it look scientific. > =20 > Their books are tremendously compact, too. > But ideograms are difficult in email. > =20
they're not.
> > > I think the comma is the coolest device of all, but it is neglected. > > > I can almost-just feel a tone-lang coming. > =20 > > any (stress) natlang is a tone lang (tone) in that regard. > =20 > OK, but people have to sing. So how about 5 tones? > Like, a =E1 =E0 =E3 =E2 or such.
and "m=E2n t=E3k" collides into "m=E2n ta'k" like in any tone natlang ? i know you know there is already a famous (aux)conlang with tones as PoS tags. mathias