Re: Etymology question

Oh.  So back to magari.  I shouldn't be doing this at
2am.

Adam
--- David Barrow <davidab@...> wrote:
> In case anyone can't see them (like me) there should
> be accented a's after
> the k's in the Greek words
>
> David Barrow
>
> David Barrow wrote:
>
> > my book on Spanish etymology says for maguer
> > 1140 (macare end of 10th century from Greek makrie
> vocative of makrios
> >
> > David Barrow
> >
> > Adam Walker wrote:
> >
> > > Ah . .  . I was going to say thanks in
> Carrajena, but
> > > then realized I don't know how.  Gotta fix that.
> > >
> > > So magar is a word in Serbian Turkish?  Which
> comes
> > > from the same root as Romanian macar, Old
> Italian
> > > macari, Occitan macari, Old Spanish
> magar/maguer, and
> > > Portuguese maguer?  But what is the word form
> which
> > > they all derive?  And what original language?
> > >
> > > Adam
> > >
> > > --- BP Jonsson <bpj@...> wrote:
> > > > At 05:23 23.5.2003 -0700, Adam Walker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Interesting, but for the jumble-jarbled
> reception
> > > > at
> > > > >this end.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > Quoth Meyer-L&#57692;ke:
> > > >
> > > > Lu"bke u-umlaut
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *m&#36621;&#37242;* (serb.-t&#57708;k.)
> "wenn
> > > >
> > > > ma"ga"r (a-umlaut), tu"rk. (u-umlaut i.e.
> Turkish)
> > > >
> > > > >nicht", "ausgenommen",
> > > > > > "vielleicht".
> > > > > >     Rum. _macar_ "wenigstens", ait.
> _macari_,
> > > > > > nit. _magari_ "und ob", "wenn auch",
> > > > s&#57694;frz.
> > > >
> > > > su"dfrz. I.e. southern French.
> > > >
> > > > > > _macari_, asp. _magar, maguer(a)_ "wenn
> auch",
> > > > > > pg. maguer "obgleich".  Das Wort ist auch
> slav.,
> > > > > > alban., ngriech.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ait. = altitalienisch
> > > > > > nit. = neuitalienisch
> > > > > > asp: = altspanisch
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > / B.Philip Jonsson B^)
> > > > --
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> > > >
> > >
>
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> > > > No man forgets his original trade: the rights
> of
> > > > nations and of kings sink into questions of
> grammar,
> > > > if grammarians discuss them.
> > > > -Dr. Samuel Johnson (1707 - 1784)
> > > >