Re: Etymology question

In case anyone can't see them (like me) there should be accented a's after
the k's in the Greek words

David Barrow

David Barrow wrote:

> my book on Spanish etymology says for maguer
> 1140 (macare end of 10th century from Greek makrie vocative of makrios
>
> David Barrow
>
> Adam Walker wrote:
>
> > Ah . .  . I was going to say thanks in Carrajena, but
> > then realized I don't know how.  Gotta fix that.
> >
> > So magar is a word in Serbian Turkish?  Which comes
> > from the same root as Romanian macar, Old Italian
> > macari, Occitan macari, Old Spanish magar/maguer, and
> > Portuguese maguer?  But what is the word form which
> > they all derive?  And what original language?
> >
> > Adam
> >
> > --- BP Jonsson <bpj@...> wrote:
> > > At 05:23 23.5.2003 -0700, Adam Walker wrote:
> > >
> > > >Interesting, but for the jumble-jarbled reception
> > > at
> > > >this end.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > > Quoth Meyer-L&#57692;ke:
> > >
> > > Lu"bke u-umlaut
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > *m&#36621;&#37242;* (serb.-t&#57708;k.) "wenn
> > >
> > > ma"ga"r (a-umlaut), tu"rk. (u-umlaut i.e. Turkish)
> > >
> > > >nicht", "ausgenommen",
> > > > > "vielleicht".
> > > > >     Rum. _macar_ "wenigstens", ait. _macari_,
> > > > > nit. _magari_ "und ob", "wenn auch",
> > > s&#57694;frz.
> > >
> > > su"dfrz. I.e. southern French.
> > >
> > > > > _macari_, asp. _magar, maguer(a)_ "wenn auch",
> > > > > pg. maguer "obgleich".  Das Wort ist auch slav.,
> > > > > alban., ngriech.
> > > > >
> > > > > ait. = altitalienisch
> > > > > nit. = neuitalienisch
> > > > > asp: = altspanisch
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > / B.Philip Jonsson B^)
> > > --
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> > >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > No man forgets his original trade: the rights of
> > > nations and of kings sink into questions of grammar,
> > > if grammarians discuss them.
> > > -Dr. Samuel Johnson (1707 - 1784)
> > >

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