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Re: How many verbs?

From:Apollo Hogan <apollo@...>
Date:Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 5:57
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, Gary Shannon wrote:

> This is just a random thought, but I was wondering if > there were any natlangs with this feature that > occurred to me for use in a conlang. The number of > verbs in the language would be very small, covering > only the most basic form of a particular action and > the details would be provided by an adverb-like word > that narrowed down the meaning of the verb. > > For example, the language would not have the verbs "to > run" or "to walk", but would use adverbs with the verb > "to move" giving, for example: "to move 'runly'" or > "to move 'walkly'". These adverbs could then be > applied to other verbs to create idioms unique to the > language like: (using English words) > > This boy act-he excitedly too-much did, and speak-he > runly did. Speak-I requestly did, that speak-he > walkly do. > > By using the adverbs "runly" and "walkly" in different > contexts their meanings would somewhat broader and > more versatile, thus keeping the number of such > special adverbs reasonably small as well. > > So I can't help but wonder how small a set of verbs > would constitute a useful set. I'm not thinking of > minimalism for its own sake, but to create as many > verbs as would be useful without violating the spirit > of not creating a new verb when a verb + adverb would > do the job. A mere 10 verbs and 10 adverbs would give > 100 verb + adverb combinations possibly taking over > for 100 separate English verbs, or possibly creating > novel meanings not expressible in English without some > circumlocution.
You might be interested in Kalam, a language from the New Guinea Highlands described by Andrew Pawley in "A language which defies description by ordinary means" in _The_Role_Of_Theory_In_Language_Description_. I quote: In this language verb stems are a closed set, consisting of about 100 members. Speakers rely heavily on a small subset of these, termed here "generic verbs": 15 generic verbs account for 89 percent of all verb occurrences in text; 35 generic verbs account for 98.6 percent of all verb tokens. There is extensive verb serialization in Kalam, e.g. a conventional expression translating roughly as 'to massage' is: pk wk d ap tan d ap yap g- strike rub hold come ascend hold come descend do Other examples from the paper: b ak am mon p-wk d ap ay-a-k man that go wood hit-break get come put-3SG-PAST 'The man fetched some firewood' b tw d-y mon tb lak-p man axe hold-SS.PRIOR wood cut split-PERF.3SG 'The man split the wood with an axe' b mon-day d yok-e-k, waty at am-b, man stick-piece hold displace-DS.PRIOR-3SG fence top go-PERF.3SG wog-mgan yow-p garden-in fall-PERF.3SG 'The man threw a stick over the fence into the garden' kab añañ ap yap pk-e-k pag-p ok rock glass come fall strike-DS.PRIOR-3SG break-PERF-3SG that 'The stone fell on the glass and it broke' and so on. A few sample generic verbs: ag- make a sound: emit, resound, speak, etc. d- control, constrain: hold, obtain, get, touch, handle, catch, seize, stop, cease, complete something yok- force something away from its usual or secure position: remove, displace, dislodge, dislocate, throw, propel, get rid of something, put something out of place, send away, banish, etc. A very interesting language (and a good article to read if you can get your hands on it.) --Apollo

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