Re: Negation?
From: | Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...> |
Date: | Thursday, July 8, 1999, 7:16 |
At 17:15 07/07/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Patrick Dunn done wrote:
>
>>My language Hatas-Oa, the notes of which have been lost, had no negative
>>forms. To say, "don't shut the window!" you'd have to say "let the window
>>remain open." It required a strange sort of precision, actually.
>>
>>"Do you want somethiing to drink?"
>>"I am satisfied."
>>
>>"Do you want some tea?"
>>"I like coffee."
>
>Very interesting. Reminds me of Laadan, in which it is allegedly impossible
>to directly contradict someone (although, as we've discussed on this list,
>that's not strictly speaking true).
>
>It seems that the Hatas-Oa system would work for concepts that have
>opposites ("open" and "shut", for instance), but that it would run into
>problems with non-polar concepts. How, for instance, could you express
>something like "John is not my brother" or "It didn't rain yesterday"?
>I suppose you could come up with non-negative paraphrases which would
>get those ideas across (e.g. "John is someone else's brother", "It was
>sunny yesterday"), but of course those don't convey exactly the same
>meaning.
>
>Hatas-Oa speakers must have a rather unique understanding of truth-
>conditional semantics... :-)
>
That's why I want to have such a feature in Tj'a-ts'a~n: I don't want the
Sky People to have such a true-false logic.
>Matt.
>
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