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Re: Negation?

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Thursday, July 8, 1999, 7:16
At 17:15 07/07/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Patrick Dunn done wrote: > >>My language Hatas-Oa, the notes of which have been lost, had no negative >>forms. To say, "don't shut the window!" you'd have to say "let the window >>remain open." It required a strange sort of precision, actually. >> >>"Do you want somethiing to drink?" >>"I am satisfied." >> >>"Do you want some tea?" >>"I like coffee." > >Very interesting. Reminds me of Laadan, in which it is allegedly impossible >to directly contradict someone (although, as we've discussed on this list, >that's not strictly speaking true). > >It seems that the Hatas-Oa system would work for concepts that have >opposites ("open" and "shut", for instance), but that it would run into >problems with non-polar concepts. How, for instance, could you express >something like "John is not my brother" or "It didn't rain yesterday"? >I suppose you could come up with non-negative paraphrases which would >get those ideas across (e.g. "John is someone else's brother", "It was >sunny yesterday"), but of course those don't convey exactly the same >meaning. > >Hatas-Oa speakers must have a rather unique understanding of truth- >conditional semantics... :-) >
That's why I want to have such a feature in Tj'a-ts'a~n: I don't want the Sky People to have such a true-false logic.
>Matt. > >------------------------------------ >Matt Pearson >mpearson@ucla.edu >UCLA Linguistics Department >405 Hilgard Avenue >Los Angeles, CA 90095-1543 >------------------------------------ > >
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