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Re: Two seperate questions: Rhoticity/Topic-Comment

From:Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>
Date:Monday, December 11, 2006, 14:06
Hi!

Philip Newton writes:
> On 12/10/06, Carsten Becker <carbeck@...> wrote: > > uvular trill. In *my* dialect of German I usually have [R] > > (the fricative one!) for /r/ in syllable onsets and [6] [...] in codas. > > Same for this native German speaker. (Hamburg, northern Germany)
Same here (East-Westphalia).
> With the exception that /a6/ is [a:] -- the last word in "auf großem > Pfad" and "auf großer Fahrt" sounds the same to me. (At least in > colloquial pronunciation, which has [f] for syllable-initial /pf/.)
Same here.
> But I have [6] after [E o: O i: I u: U y: Y 2: 9]. > > Interestingly, I don't seem to have [e:6] -- there are words which I > pronounce with [E6] which I found out at some point have long [e:] in > standard German (e.g. "Erde, Herd"), something I didn't know; I > thought my pronunciation in those words was standard. (Learn something > new every day!) I don't know whether all my /e6/ have turned into > /E6/, but it's possible.
I noticed very late in my life that I have no length distinction in [6]-diphthongs at all. I only have [a: E:6 i:6 O:6 u:6 y:6 9:6]. (I mark them long since I seem to miss the short variants when comparing to my wife's pronunciation, with the peculiarity that /e:6/,/E6/ = [E:6] and likewise /2:6/,/96/ = [9:6]. **Henrik

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