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Re: IPA -> Ascii website

From:Herman Miller <hmiller@...>
Date:Thursday, October 18, 2001, 3:07
On Wed, 17 Oct 2001 12:34:13 -0400, Patrick Jarrett <Seraph@...>
wrote:

>Hey guys - I know I am not the only one out there who needs this. >I finally found a website which transcribed the IPA into the ASCII >code which the more knowledgeable readers use. Being the newbie I >am I have been seeking this and finally found it. > >http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Evan_Kirshenbaum/IPA/english.html > >Hope someone else can find use in this as well.
This is only a small part of Evan Kirshenbaum's ASCII-IPA scheme. The rest of it is here: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Evan_Kirshenbaum/IPA/faq.html Although there are many things I like about the Kirshenbaum system, it has a number of gaps, and in particular having to use [s<lat>] and [z<lat>] for the lateral fricatives is just awkward. I'm not too fond of X-SAMPA, but it gets the job done and has become somewhat of a standard around here. A summary of X-SAMPA is at http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/sampa/x-sampa.htm (but if you have Acrobat Reader you should really look at the PDF version at http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/sampa/ipasam-x.pdf, which is more complete and has actual pictures of the IPA characters). Once when I was dissatisfied with X-SAMPA, I came up with my own scheme, the KPA (http://www.io.com/~hmiller/lang/kpa.html). There are a few things I'd change about the KPA, but I still think it's a pretty good system overall, and easier to read than X-SAMPA. I have a hand-drawn X-SAMPA <-> IPA chart I keep next to my laptop for reading Conlang messages. I'd probably still want a chart for KPA, but I wouldn't need it as frequently. (Quick, what's X-SAMPA for linguolabial? In KPA it's [_m]. If you're familiar with the "subscript seagull" you can see where that comes from. I only know it's [_N] in X-SAMPA because I have the chart next to me.) -- languages of Azir------> ---<http://www.io.com/~hmiller/lang/index.html>--- hmiller (Herman Miller) "If all Printers were determin'd not to print any @io.com email password: thing till they were sure it would offend no body, \ "Subject: teamouse" / there would be very little printed." -Ben Franklin