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Re: Auxlangs in conworlds, was Re: The Great Sundering

From:Jörg Rhiemeier <joerg_rhiemeier@...>
Date:Friday, November 28, 2003, 22:55

On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:42:31 -0800,
Costentin Cornomorus <elemtilas@...> wrote:

> --- Jörg Rhiemeier <joerg_rhiemeier@...> > wrote: > > > > [auxlang opportunities in Ill Bethisad] > > > > I agree. It becomes evident when one looks at > > when auxlanging > > was popular *here*, and compares that to the > > rises and falls of > > internationally dominant natlangs. Most > > auxlangs were proposed > > when there was no dominant language. > > We might have to revisit this facet of life in > IB. I rather like the notion that the auxlang > movement is more interested in philosophical > languages.
Yes. As I have said in another article, this is much more fun than imitating the euroclone auxlang story once again. An a posteriori auxlang wouldn't look much different *there*. Back in the days when I was involved in Ill Bethisad with the Elves, I had some ideas for a fictional philosophical language that could exist in Ill Bethisad. I called it "Modus Locutionis Universalis", or "Modus" in short. The idea I had was to use a triconsonantal morphology with roots derived from a three-tiered classification scheme. Modus wasn't a success as an international language, but some librarians still use it to classify books, similar to the way they use Dewey Decimal Classification *here*. I think I should pick up work on Modus again; setting up the taxonomy could be a group project.
> I also think that the market isn't in > great need of planned auxlangs - there is already > in place a system of regional natural auxlangs > and pidgins/creoles.
I also have the impression that Latin hasn't fallen in decline the same way as *here*; that it is e.g. still used for scientific communication. There are probably some "Latino sine flexione" schemes in circulation.
> Some of this material has > even made it into mainstream natural languages: > moainey is Kerno and roughly means "shop" or > "buy". It is heard frequently enough in > Chinatown, where Cantonese hawkers call out may > nei! = you buy it! I'm sure there is a sort of > Britano-Cantonese pidgin right there in the heart > of Dûnein.
A Britano-Cantonese pidgin! Certainly amusing to sort out!
> > So with the lack of a dominant international > > language, > > Ill Bethisad ought to be a fertile ground for > > auxlangs. > > It could be that the auxlangers haven't offered > what it is everyone needs! ;)
Especially if they dabble in phiosophical languages, which are monstrously impractical, at least as media of communication.
> > They probably haven't settled on ONE auxlang, > > though. > > Almost certainly. At best, I think IB might be > suited to local auxlangs. Most countries have a > standard language, which is official; but many > regions do not comply with education in that > language. They might be served by bridge > languages that can serve broad regions of the > dialect continuum.
Yes. Greetings, Jörg.