Re: Verb order in Montreiano

Ference Valoczy wrote:
>On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Andreas Johansson wrote:
>
> > Ferenc Valoczy wrote:
>
><snipetty>
> > >Now you will all think I'm off my rocker, but here's my
> > >theory: Eskimo-Aleut are Uralic. I've done lots of work with Samoyedic
> > >languages (but little with Eskimo-Aleut), and from what I have seen, I
> > >think at least it's plausible.
> >
> > I know little of Uralic, and almost nothing of Eskimo-Aleut, so I can't
>say
> > much of your hypothesis. However, isn't it more likely that Eskimo-Aleut
>and
> > Uralic together forms a super-family? If they do, I henceforth name it
>EAU -
> > snow (ie water, French "eau") is kind of the thing these people have in
> > common!
>
>Hehe, that's amusing =). But yes, I think that might be a better way to
>arrange it. I am ever so slowly working on this, so if you want I can keep
>you posted...
I'd appreciate that very much.
>
> > On a more serious note, the Yukaghir language of Sakha (aka Yakutia) is
> > thought to be related to the Uralic langs. Does it figure in your
> > hypothesis?
>
>It does, actually. In the way I've been figuring, the chart would go
>
>
>Uralic - FU - Finnic
>             - Ugric
>          Eskimo-Samoyed
>             - Samoyedic
>             - Eskimo-Aleut
>          Yukagir
>
>roughly.
So you're thinking Samoyedic may actually be closer to Eskimo-Aleut than to
Finno-Ugric? Interesting!

>I'm also trying to find more about Chukchi, Evenki and the other
>Paleosiberian languages; I think they too might possibly fit into this,
>but at the moment that's just a wild guess.
>
>The other way we can arrange the chart is how you suggested,
>
>EAU - Uralic
>     - Eskimo-Aleut
>
>but, then, the question yet remains, is Yukagir a branch of Uralic as I
>have it in the first chart, or of EAU? At the moment I'd lean towards
>Uralic, but we'll see.
As said, my knowledge of of these things is sketchy, but the fact that
Yukaghir have for some time have been considered related to Uralic, while
your idea for Eskimo-Aleut is new (AFAIK) would seem to suggest the
following as the most probable grouping:

EAU  - Uralic-Yukaghir  - Uralic    - Fino-Ugric - Finnic
                                                 - Ugric
                                    - Samoyedic
                        - Yukaghir
     - Eskimo-Aleut

Tho' if your Eskimo-Samoyed group could be proved, that'd be rather more
exciting!

Know of any good resources where I can learn more about Uralic and
Eskimo-Aleut? I'd like to know what I'm talking about a bit better!

                                            Andreas
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