CHAT: Strictly CHAT: Infallibility
|From:||John Cowan <jcowan@...>|
|Date:||Friday, April 14, 2000, 22:16|
Raymond Brown wrote:
> [W]hen the Church solemnly
> defines a doctrine to be held by all the faithful it will be preserved from
> error, i.e. the infallibility of Mother Church is common to both traditions.
As I recall, the issue at Vatican I (1870) was whether:
a) the infallibility of the Church just happened to be concentrated
at the Bishop of Rome, de facto, or
b) the infallibility of the Church implied a consequent infallibility
of the Pope.
> Papal infallibility does _not_ mean a Pope says nothing wrong!
Indeed, only statements made:
a) _ex cathedra_, in the Pope's capacity of Universal Doctor, and
b) concerning faith or morals
are said to be infallible. Any infallibility which might inhere in any other
ex cathedra statements is a question. IIRC, the Popes have in fact made
no such ex cathedra statements since 1870.
> In fact all priests in the Greek tradition hold the title :)
In the Discordian/Eristic tradition, we have the popehood of all believers
and unbelievers. You can get an ID card saying so:
The holder of this card is a genuine and authorized POPE.
Please treat him or her as such.
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