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Re: more English orthography

From:Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
Date:Tuesday, May 16, 2000, 13:08
Marcus Smith wrote:
> In fact, the people I tested were consistent in responding with > [h{lVkIti]
Well, [V] and [@] are allophones of each other, at least in my dialect, [V] used in stressed syllables, and [@] in unstressed. Also, I have a (probably nonphonemic) distinction between "really short schwa" as in the third syllable of dilapidated (the schwa seems to be less a phoneme and more a transition between sounds - it lasts just as long as it takes for the tongue to move up to the roof of the mouth, starting when the /p/ opens) and "regular schwa" as in "kappa", in which both the /&/ and the /@/ seem to take the same length to pronounce.
> Since they are willing to provide a form > for these when there could not possibly be any stored in their head, then I > think we have to be suspicious of any pronunciation of an uncommon word.
Ah, but what if instead of *telling* them the word, you'd shown them the word and asked them to pronounce it? I suspect you'd find a reasonably consistent guessing there. The use of [V] makes sense, when forced to choose a transformation from [@] into another vowel, they'd pick the closest one, namely [V], which is, in fact, an allophone of [@] in many (most? all?) dialects. -- "If the stars should appear one night in a thousand years, how would men believe and adore, and preserve for many generations the remembrance of the city of God!" - Ralph Waldo Emerson "Glassín wafilái pigasyúv táv pifyániivav nadusakyáavav sussyáiyatantu wawailáv ku suslawayástantu ku usfunufilpyasváditanva wafpatilikániv wafluwáiv suttakíi wakinakatáli tiDikáufli!" - nLáf mÁldu nÍmasun ICQ: 18656696 AIM Screen-Name: NikTailor