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Re: Sawilan Constructions

From:Ed Heil <edheil@...>
Date:Monday, August 9, 1999, 22:34
Well, read _Foundations of Cognitive Grammar,_ Vol. I & II, and then
tell me if you still think it's a notational variant.

Or wait till I go back to school and become a *real* linguist
someday, and see whether in the process I realize that Cog. Gram. is
just a notational variant (since I've already read FOCG; that would
save you the trouble).

As for Sawila, all the Sawila that exists is in my Chanan Linguistics
paper and the poem "Sila Samu I."  However, Rob Nierse (whom I believe
you know) has taken an interest in expanding the language, and to that
end I have sent him all the information I have on it and the rules by
which I constructed words for it.   Perhaps he will take it new
places!

Ed Heil edheil@postmark.net
1999 World Champion
On the Edge Collectible Card Game

Boudewijn Rempt wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Aug 1999, Ed Heil wrote: > > > Boudewijn, this is a very simple version of "construction grammar," > > and I included the "based-on" relationships so you could be amused by > > seeing object orientation used in a grammatical description of a > > conlang. :) > > Hmmm. I don't think I'm really convinced that this isn't merely > a notational variant after all ;-). I don't see any special constructions, > like inheritance (multiple or otherwise - Panini already had inheritance > of rules, if not of objects). Likewise, I have some trouble taking serious > a paper that thinks a certain theory is desirable because it is > natural (especially if the definition of naturalness includes > symbolic links - a clear influence from Unix ;-), conceptual unification > and theoretical austerity, instead of success in describing the variety > of languages found in the world, and explaining the coherence of each > language. > > I could try to offer a more substantial and less flippant review, if I > were tempted to take it serious - but I really can't. Scott DeLancey > is at the outer boundaries of what I can take - and I seldom agree > with him (if only because I've found that he uses his data sometimes > in a slip-shod way). I agree with Langacker that grammar encodes meaning, > though, and I've enjoyed Wierzbicka's theoretical work to some extent, > but Ronald Langacker is not for me... > > http://crl.ucsd.edu/newsletter/4-3/Article1.html > > As for the language: more data, please! > > Boudewijn Rempt | http://www.xs4all.nl/~bsarempt >